Fullmetal Alchemist
DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| "Rushed"? No, "only gives time to things relevant to the plot". Y'see, FMA ain't some psychological story. It is plot-driven, first and foremost. It is about action, humour, heroism, and batshit insane villains, it's a bit like the pulps, really. It's gung-ho. Grim stuff happens in droves, but the focus is not on the mental reactions to it, but the reactions to it. The pacing should be fast, it's a fast story (how would Pulp Fiction be if we dwelled on how depressed Jules was over his job, or about Marvins death? Probably still great, but it'd be another thing altogether. Same thing here). "Split screen sux", well, no, it's a rather nifty technique, actually. Underused. Also underscores, with panache, that this is a manga adaption, and not just a spinoff where they choose to ignore everything that made the original great and replace it with weaker parts. "Eyecatch sucks", well, yes, a lot. I still think it might turn out bad though. I am pessimistic. But I am glad it follows the manga somewhat. Not good enough, but it tries. |
How is the world ruled and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read. | Report rules abuse | Your Panel | Clubs | Messages | Forum | Recent <img src="http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4672/stuhlbarg.png" /> |
| I think the main problem of this episode is, that this was supposed to be the "wtf-Automail? Human transmutation? Sins?" - thing, but we already got a hell lot of information about the background of the automail and the sins with human trasmutation, bla bla, you know the story. So, especially the scene when Ed rips off his clothes, isn't as awesome as it used to be, because we've just gotten too much information in episode 2. *drop* For me, it felt like: "So what? You doing some nice posing there, but could you please start the action now?" Nevertheless, I think the episode was really great, but due to the things I just talked about, I gave 4/5 and not 5/5. The scene at the very end when Ed was talking to Rose was so awesome, that's the part I enjoyed the most in this episode. |
| Rawr, quit skipping so much! This was all over the place. ...And they still haven't elaborated on Trisha. Episode two basically was 'o btw she died' And now three was 'we wanted her back lol' Regardless, I liked this better than episode two. They went really fast with it, but seeing as Cornello isn't very crucial to the story, it's understandable. Only thing I'm really not liking is the random comedy and/or comedic expressions. Kills the mood. |
|
| Really nice episode, enjoyed it from the beginning to the end. (: |
 staff.applications ▼ guidelines.faq ▼ report.abuse ▼ thx.skittles ▼ thx.kina ▼ [H+] ³ ▼ |
| So the father received divine punishment by god's fist huh? Pretty good & funny episode. |
| Good episode. I like the way to give the same informations than in the previous anime but with different means. It's quite a shame that a certain building hasn't been destroyed by a marvellous (and ugly) creation ^^ I'm not looking forward to the next one... It's a part of the story that shocked me so much when I was younger... |
| I'm glad it was just one episode. :) What I didn't expect was Cornello turning huge. I saw the whole thing coming, but not the Cornello part. I can't wait for the Tucker episode now. |
| Wow... all of Lior in one episode. Nice. And is it me, or there are a whole lotta comedy going on... |
fai said: And overall, what do you expect? its an adaptation of manga, of course they have to cover Lior again, but this time without the stupid fillertastic additions from fma1. :) Hmmm, I was thinking that the filler you speak of was dramatic plot development that lead to a more meaningful emotional reaction. They weren't just mindless retelling of the the manga. I'm still of the opinnion that the original FMA1 story was leaps and bounds better developed and more interesting. Oh and btw, the original was also an adaption from the manga. The key word there was "adaption" meaning the director Seiji Mizushima actually did some interpretation of his own and added to the original story to create a powerful and morally driven series that left the viewer wondering what was going to happen next. In the other corner Yasuhiro Irie who has very little directing experience shows the production team really wasn't taking this too seriously. It's pretty clear to me that Bones is just looking to capitalize by casting some new director to bring in new revenue to a series that made them a lot of money in the past. The are probably hoping to Bring in new viewers so that they will go watch the original FMA1 again too. I don't really even have a problem with that aspect, but retelling a story seems a little too much for me. I really liked the first series obviously, and Fai I'm thinking you loved it too. And yet you continue to criticize FMA1, to justify Brotherhoods existence. It's ok I forgive you Fai. |
Orion1Apr 21, 2009 3:51 AM
| I liked the fact that they covered it in one episode. Good quality animations. 5/5 again :D |
     |
Orion1 said: LOL. That's right fai-san :) you're still awesome~I really liked the first series obviously, and Fai I'm thinking you loved it too. And yet you continue to criticize FMA1, to justify Brotherhoods existence. It's ok I forgive you Fai. |
| For those people who haven't watch the first adaptation will not find this show fast paced. Anyway, I am impressed that they managed to fit in everything into one episode. I was hoping that they will split it into two. However, this will not drive us to watch it anymore if it's going to be slow. Nevertheless, it's still a good watch. I think they are really closing in to the "right" adaptation this time. |
     |
| In the first rendition of the series (FMA1, I guess) didn't Cornello live for a brief period after the fight with Edward? It made me a bit confused that Lust killed him immediately or it could just be that I don't remember years back from watching it xD |
| Emo episode next! If they rush it it won't be as sad. =/ |
   |
| I think it was a well laid out episode. At first I was like damn... almost a complete "remake" of FMA1 but then they swapped out for some manga scenes and I was like... nice! Seemed a little "darker" than the first series run with Lior as well. |
 |
| Lol on parts were the followers were trying to stop the elric brothers. I always love the part where Ed transmutes his spear from the ground. |
 |
| Good episode. I DREAD the next episode. One of my favorite stories in anything, but so messed up. I will cry. |
| Usotsuki. |
Orion1 said: I really liked the first series obviously, and Fai I'm thinking you loved it too. And yet you continue to criticize FMA1, to justify Brotherhoods existence. It's ok I forgive you Fai. Oh i would have loved it too, if not for depressing tone, Mizushima's hatred for women, last 20 hilariously bad episodes and the ridiculousness that is Dante |
 |
| *sigh* i hope the plot changes soon because up until now it's basically the same story as the first FMA... |
p r o f i l e 👀 |
MistressMorbid said: As an avid fan of the first show, I really didn't mind them going by this arc at a quicker pace. I have a feeling they're probably just as excited as we are to get onto the 'new' material (aka the stuff that wasn't in the first series), and since they realize most people watching this show have already seen the first one, they don't want to overlap too many things and make it redundant. I'm sure they'll slow down a bit once we get to manga material that never appeared in the original series. So far, I'm loving this remake and can't wait to see what's ahead! :) Well I think this was the most helpful thing I've read so far being a person who liked the first series but isn't die hard enough to read the manga. However you did just make me have to watch the fourth episode. Am I gonna be disappointed with the new material or is it more like the original? Question goes out to the Manga experts. Oh and if you have read the manga and liked the first series, I'd love to hear how you feel this new interpretation and direction compares to the original. |
Orion1 said: Am I gonna be disappointed with the new material or is it more like the original? Question goes out to the Manga experts. The new material, unlike the old one, constructs an intelligent, sophisticated plot, where all characters are more or less life-and-blood thinking beings, and where plot elements aren't forgotten but used continually even as new ones are introduced. Unlike the old one it's not about drama and angst (nothing bad with that), it's about bigger-than-life heroics and magnificent villainry. And while it's not done publishing yet, I'd wager it, unlik the old one, actually has a relevant, solid ending. It's far less about the characters and far more about the plot, far less two-cent bawwwery than pulp-class gung-ho adventure, and so on. In other words, it focuses on what FMA is good at, rather than going "bah let's develop the characters it's more artsy" and failing. In other words, since you liked the first series, I don't think you'll like this one :/ |
How is the world ruled and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read. | Report rules abuse | Your Panel | Clubs | Messages | Forum | Recent <img src="http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4672/stuhlbarg.png" /> |
| Pfff. I see a lot of people here were so much determined to believe from the very beginning that this series would be either awesome or horrible, that at some point, no matter what you show them, they'll still blindly keep to their opinion, refusing to accept the other side's arguments. As for me, I still feel like there's something missing from this. I didn't enjoy the first half at all, but the second seemed really, really good. Maybe I'm comparing it to the original series too much; but I know it's to early too judge it, so I'll reserve my comments for later on. Oh and I'm still skipping the lousy OP, which NEVER happens when I'm not marathoning something. |
| I fell asleep watching this. PSP in bed at 2am isn't the best time, me thinks. |
| LEGENDOFTHEGALACTICHEROESLEGENDOFTHEGALACTI LEGENDOFTHEGALACTICHEROESLEGENDOFTHEGALACTI LEGENDOFTHEGALACTICHEROESLEGENDOFTHEGALACTI |
| hahaha, I'm a big fan of that English voice XDDDD Hmm... I think they made things going faster 'cause that episode was in the first season too ... But I liked that fast type. Really waiting forward n______n |
     |
| Nice ep! Funny, action-packed, and exciting! Can't wait for next week's. ^^ |
| Glad it was rushed a bit. I almost didn't watch the anime becasuse Lior seemed to be boring. S2 great manga adaption so far. |
 |
| Nice ep, was much better than the first series which I honestly found quite boring, boring enough to drop it. It was kind of a relief they rushed through this or as Ii should say took out all the jibber jabber. Lots of comedy relief, however I am expecting the show to get a little more emotional during the latter stages of the anime, although I could be wrong because i have not finished the first season and I have not read the manga. Since I am here I may as well ask (specifically the manga readers) is the manga close to finishing, or is it still publishing, if so how far is it ahead of this anime? |
| loving this anime. only point in it that i hate is the intermission which says "FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST" twice in english. |
 |
| Honestly, as someone who hasn't read the manga, but seen the first show, I'm kind of hesitant to see what is so different. Basically, I'm hearing, "The manga is more about badasses and action," and the old show was about "Character development and tone." That's not what I was hoping to trade off. I'm hoping that the tone and character devleopemnt are intact, with less plot holes and angst from Wrath, some of Ed's angst in the middle, and an overall, better construced story. If FMA is really just all about action and bad guys, then that takes a lot away from what I loved about the first show, therefore living with Ed's childishly lame ways. |
| That's good. I don't like hearing things like "character development is bad or more artsy." It's an integral function of a story. |
noteDhero said: That's good. I don't like hearing things like "character development is bad or more artsy." It's an integral function of a story. I would like to say that "character development handled correctly" is integral function of story. FMA1 had none of that, while the character development in FMA2/Manga is more consistent and actually makes sense. You could actually say that characters act like human beings in manga, while the first series had the tendency to randomly use characters for the sake of just somehow furthering the plot. |
|
| Concurment with Fai and Capabellum. It is a change in the focus to aforementioned action and badassery (if one looks at it achronologically, since quite technically it's the first series that changed the focus to character development), from which it benefits. It's not an equivalent exchange, to wax a tad cheesy. It also does have a different kind of tone - far less angst, due to the bad-actionery-, Haruhi knows if it will shine through in this adaption though. |
How is the world ruled and how do wars start? Diplomats tell lies to journalists and then believe what they read. | Report rules abuse | Your Panel | Clubs | Messages | Forum | Recent <img src="http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4672/stuhlbarg.png" /> |
Kaiserpingvin said: That is the main thing I'm sad about XD ...far less angst I'm a sucker fo angst..>_> yes I have a cruel taste of genres. |
| I'm generally not a fan of angst because it isn't really well handled, and normally doesn't fit the story. I will say that with the first FMA, I felt that about 70% of the angsty tone was completely justified given the background and actions of the characters. The more I think on it, Fai, FMA did have little in the way of character development, but all of the characters that weren't homonculi we're more than satisfactorily characterized. I knew what reactions to expect from major characters because we were beautifully given a very distinct look on them all. If a lot of the tone that I loved is sacrificed for action, then I'll just have to watch and make my verdict then, because I'm not necessarily a sucker for action unless it's well directed. |
| Everything was just awesome & I'm happy they put more funny Ed & Al moments, heh. Animation was great as always~ Omg, Nina next week! ;___; *starts tearing up already* |
     |
Fai said: I would like to say that "character development handled correctly" is integral function of story. FMA1 had none of that, while the character development in FMA2/Manga is more consistent and actually makes sense. You could actually say that characters act like human beings in manga, while the first series had the tendency to randomly use characters for the sake of just somehow furthering the plot. Oh Fai I'm beginning to wonder if you even saw the first series? Character development was definitely a major part of it. But enough of this bickering, You all have convinced me to finish this series, even if it's hard to watch the first series over again in a What? Stricktly action and Comedy with little drama and Angst. I can't say I like the sound of that. I sure would hate to be someone who worked so hard on the first series. I think I'd feel a little insulted, especially when the original series really is a Bones new classic IMO. Kaiserpingvin said: In other words, since you liked the first series, I don't think you'll like this one. You are probably right Kaiser, but I hope your wrong. |
| The episode was good and they didn't make Lior two episodes long this time. Rose's hair still looks weird with the darker color. |
Fai said: DeathfireD said: *goes and flips though manga collection* what volume was THAT in?! *hasn't read the earlier manga chapters in a long while* this huh? I never read the manga nor did I make that comment. Stop putting words in my mouth. I'll stand by my original comment when I say this is way to rushed and way to condensed. The first season had more detail. So what if the bird and animated statues where not in the manga? It gave the series more dept....way more then this episode anyway. I'm still hopping this rush is just to get to the new content. If not I'm gonna be depressed. |
^)^ DeathfireD ^)^ Anime Alliance P2P Network *OPEN FOR NEW MEMBERS* |
| great ep. impressed that they did that arc in one ep and still made it feel not rushed and still put in some jokes. but oh god, that eyecatch is killing me. ugh. |
 |
DeathfireD said: Fai said: DeathfireD said: *goes and flips though manga collection* what volume was THAT in?! *hasn't read the earlier manga chapters in a long while* this huh? I never read the manga nor did I make that comment. Stop putting words in my mouth. I'll stand by my original comment when I say this is way to rushed and way to condensed. The first season had more detail. So what if the bird and animated statues where not in the manga? It gave the series more dept....way more then this episode anyway. I'm still hopping this rush is just to get to the new content. If not I'm gonna be depressed. Back track a few pages you'll see I quoted your comment, and then Fai seemed to had goofed and quoted my comment yet it showed your name instead, I corrected this when I quoted his comment when it showed my old comment.... |
 |
| This is still being rushed D: |
 |
| I don't know about the rest of you, but I, for one, cannot get enough of the chibi animations, Ed being made fun of for his lack of height, or people confusing Al for the Fullmetal Alchemist. It's so incredibly original, humorous, and just becomes that much more funny each new time we see it. I'm very glad that they've been able to use this joke more times in 3 episodes than all 52 episodes of the last series, and that they've inserted between otherwise serious, dark, life-and-death moments. Very appropriate, among other things. |
YoungVagabondApr 22, 2009 4:03 AM
Kabyk said: Whether you enjoyed the "rush" status of the Lior arc or not, no one can deny it was rushed. Since it was rushed, there's no way to care for (get attached to) the story-specific characters. IE: Rose and Cornello. Because of zero depth to Rose's story besides one or two throw-away lines, why should we care she's having a breakdown at the end of the ep? We don't. And don't say you do because based on solely this ep (without prior knowledge of first series or manga) you wouldn't care. Because of lack of screentime for what Cornello has been doing besides some exposition, very little sense of satisfaction when he is brought down. No it was not "rushed". It was, maybe, fast-paced, but hey did not skip huge scenes from manga and etc. Rose? Caring or not caring comes from how you react to her emotions, She got the same backstory, minus the ridiculous overgrown parrot. Its all good, Especially since she won't get anything major to do anyway... Cornellio? He has that vibe of "i am ridiculous, evil third-rate guy" so that's good enough to see him smashed. Especially since we won't see him again. The "Lior" is just an introduction arc, so I see no reason for them to expand upon something that will never be shown again... Not to mention that with how it was stretched out in FMA1, it feels great in this pace in FMA2. |
|
Fai said: On that note, it's no big deal with Rose since imo she was never an important character, I'm curious to see how they carry out the Nina story. Now THAT story is going to be a challenge. Will they be able to envoke the same emotions as the first time around?Rose? Caring or not caring comes from how you react to her emotions, She got the same backstory, minus the ridiculous overgrown parrot. Its all good, Especially since she won't get anything major to do anyway... I can just tell that it's either going to go well, or it's going to go terribly wrong and everyone will be all ARGGG!!!! |
ShaolinRibiero said: I don't know about the rest of you, but I, for one, cannot get enough of the chibi animations, Ed being made fun of for his lack of height, or people confusing Al for the Fullmetal Alchemist. It's so incredibly original, humorous, and just becomes that much more funny each new time we see it. I'm very glad that they've been able to use this joke more times in 3 episodes than all 52 episodes of the last series, and that they've inserted between otherwise serious, dark, life-and-death moments. Very appropriate, among other things. Most definitely, most definitely. Each and every time they repeat them I instantly get the feeling that the value is of this series is exponentially increased, I'm lovin' every minute of it. |
 |
Fai said: NExt Ep = bawsome stuff Nina We're going to watch that ep. all over again next week? |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
More topics from this board
Poll: » Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 39 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )Ahenshihael - Jan 10, 2010 |
156 |
by bbopp
»»
Mar 30, 9:32 PM |
|
Poll: » Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 38 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )porkypink - Dec 27, 2009 |
158 |
by bbopp
»»
Mar 30, 8:59 PM |
|
Poll: » Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 37 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )adamantine - Dec 20, 2009 |
176 |
by bbopp
»»
Mar 30, 7:50 PM |
|
Poll: » Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 36 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )adamantine - Dec 13, 2009 |
180 |
by bbopp
»»
Mar 30, 7:22 PM |
|
Poll: » Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Episode 35 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )removed-user - Dec 6, 2009 |
160 |
by bbopp
»»
Mar 30, 6:46 PM |