VN Ren'Py Forbidden Temptation [Ch.1] [HoRRoW Games]

I have an observation, which I am legitimately curious about.
Ever since AI art became common in porn games, I feel like almost every game that has utilized it and come out in the last year since then has been specifically focused on Nts.
Which is weird because it was a relatively rare subgenre prior to the rise of AI.
I feel like the Ntr-Nts ratio on this site used to be like ~80-20, mainly driven by Japanese Renpy and RPGM games.
But if you only count games using Ai within this "field" that have begun development in 2024-2025 it's almost ONLY Nts.
I'm curious why that is.

Is it just authors capitalizing on a trend?
Is there somehow a psychological connection between people who use Ai for game development, and players who are fine with it, and people who like Nts?
Or is it just a coincidence?

What is the reason why so many AI games have Nts?

Nothing wrong with AI art in indy games. Calling NTS NTR is a cardinal sin though.

Sakura propaganda

Having an eventual Hard NTR route be related to the MC cheating is believable sure, but as a NTR over NTS fan more so I'm not sure its what lovers of NTR are after, personally I like to be a good but weak character and get NTR'd. Like if the MC is cheating why should he even care about the NTR, jealously takes a massive hit that way which is the whole point of NTR imo.

Am I gonna get cucked by Naruto and Sasuke?

Really nice start, good luck to the dev

Interesting game curious to see how it develops but il admit you hit me with a curve ball at the start where it mentions cheating then the story kicks in and it goes into the teasing element of NTS towards the boyfriend haha

But I've read some of your comments about the two paths so if I had to take a stab in the dark id say faithful develops into a swinging/ both parties sharing situation , I don't see it going the traditional cuck route as I don't see how there could be a transition from wondering if your a traditional cuck to cheating as I would of thought they are polar opposites

thx

Dev I made your female MC in Sim 4. No custom content just made with base game only but your character inspired me


Good luck with the game

I just had a post removed (Edit: 2 posts now) for being off topic and the only things ive posted in here were praise for this game....in one post i compared it to another game and said this one was better because of one situation that happened there didn't happen here....how the fuck is saying this game is better than that one because this BS happened over there off topic? This is well on it's way to being one of my favorite games and my praise for it is being removed because i compared it to a game i really liked that turned bad and said i was glad this game didn't go the same direction and that it's better because of it. As you can see over on the left...i've been here a while and this is the first time anything like this has happened. I'm a little confused.

ItsNotUs said:

As your relationship is tested by unforeseen encounters and irresistible allure, will your love withstand the trials of lust and passion?
Will you resist... or surrender to the Forbidden Temptation?
The game will contain unavoidable NTS content and light NTR content.

I don’t understand why there is always such a description that there is supposedly a choice in the game!

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Know what is even funnier ? check the description of all the AIcg games that have come out recently, all the phone ones included. Almost all NTR or NTS focus that are non avoidable..
All less than 6 updates, almost all with similar, " will you resist or will you surrender " " will you remain innocent or fall to the corruption " " will they succumb to their desires or struggle to remain pure ". also accompanied by, new city or place or whatever with, what more could you ask for or some form of something very similar in nature.

It's getting ridiculous at this point.. I am all for use whatever you want but it just starts becoming a sus point when all of em are aicg, focus on the same exact things... and even the ones that break off or away from it. suffer same thing, slow updates, bare minimum content and most of all mediocre writing.. Not all, but most of them.

Gold613 said:

Know what is even funnier ? check the description of all the AIcg games that have come out recently, all the phone ones included. Almost all NTR or NTS focus that are non avoidable..
All less than 6 updates, almost all with similar, " will you resist or will you surrender " " will you remain innocent or fall to the corruption " " will they succumb to their desires or struggle to remain pure ". also accompanied by, new city or place or whatever with, what more could you ask for or some form of something very similar in nature.

It's getting ridiculous at this point.. I am all for use whatever you want but it just starts becoming a sus point when all of em are aicg, focus on the same exact things... and even the ones that break off or away from it. suffer same thing, slow updates, bare minimum content and most of all mediocre writing.. Not all, but most of them.

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This doesn't feel like a cash grab that's going to get abandoned like that. There are absolutely a shit fuck ton of these coming out now that aren't going anywhere, but there are some real gems among them...a couple of them are in my subtext below....and if dev sticks with where it appears this game is going it looks like this game could easily land among them. I quite liked the first release. The quality of the BJ scene at the end of this game makes it feel like this isn't going away anytime soon. There was a lot of effort put into the buildup and the actual scene. The ones you gotta worry about most are the phone games with nothing but the occasional picture thrown into the texts. I can DM you like 10ish games that are aicg NTS games taht are fantastic and ongoing if you want...and i feel like this game could easily land among them if dev keeps putting out quality releases like this one.

HoRRoW Games said:

Hi! Thank you for your feedback!

You'll definitely get more explanation in the next chapter. I want the Protagonist/boyfriend to be able to have fun with other girls too, but as shown, it's quite challenging to keep the excitement and tension of the NTS if the protagonist sleeps with other girls, as the attention is transferred to those as well. I thought a while, which option I like more and decided to make it so that the player will have the choice to have fun with other girls or purely dive into the hidden desire to open up his girlfriend (Without direct sex with other girls).

There is a twist in the game that will be more revealed in the second part, and it will give you a hunch as to what roughly might be going on.

Depending on the player's decisions during some scenes, the girlfriend can remain shy and need support from the boyfriend in explicit situations or become more confident and have her own vision on some events.



Hi. I definitely understand what you're saying, and I personally think Moonripple Lake is one of the best NTS/NTR games out there. I'm not going to parody BCG and will try to create a story as separate as possible in no way related to the MRPL plot. We don't know the full nature of the mystical events of the town of Moonripple Lake yet, but I'm sure my story will be different from his.

I've been thinking about the beginning of the game for a long time, and I've come to the conclusion that a good story requires a global action (Moving, vacation, etc.) in order to make the story development and events look realistic. I chose to use moving, as I'm personally a fan of that kind of path.

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I know it's your first game so you want to be very welcoming to everyone, but take my advice as an old man on this forum when I say "Don't give too many details about the future of your game and what you're thinking for it", if you have a different idea or end up doing something different, they'll call you out on it and you'll end up hating what you're doing and abandoning the game. So avoid talking about the future in detail, be vague. Do it for the love of the story that's in your head and let them be surprised by what comes next

Gold613 said:

Know what is even funnier ? check the description of all the AIcg games that have come out recently, all the phone ones included. Almost all NTR or NTS focus that are non avoidable..
All less than 6 updates, almost all with similar, " will you resist or will you surrender " " will you remain innocent or fall to the corruption " " will they succumb to their desires or struggle to remain pure ". also accompanied by, new city or place or whatever with, what more could you ask for or some form of something very similar in nature.

It's getting ridiculous at this point.. I am all for use whatever you want but it just starts becoming a sus point when all of em are aicg, focus on the same exact things... and even the ones that break off or away from it. suffer same thing, slow updates, bare minimum content and most of all mediocre writing.. Not all, but most of them.

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It seems that they not only generate images in AI, but AI also helps them create a plot!

FatYoda said:

This doesn't feel like a cash grab that's going to get abandoned like that. There are absolutely a shit fuck ton of these coming out now that aren't going anywhere, but there are some real gems among them...a couple of them are in my subtext below....and if dev sticks with where it appears this game is going it looks like this game could easily land among them. I quite liked the first release. The quality of the BJ scene at the end of this game makes it feel like this isn't going away anytime soon. There was a lot of effort put into the buildup and the actual scene. The ones you gotta worry about most are the phone games with nothing but the occasional picture thrown into the texts. I can DM you like 10ish games that are aicg NTS games taht are fantastic and ongoing if you want...and i feel like this game could easily land among them if dev keeps putting out quality releases like this one.

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Never said it was a cashgrab, as of this point it is unknown, however that does not change the facts that I just mentioned. There are a few good ones with some decent writing. And I can find pretty much all of the myself, but to make another point, you can send me 10 of them that you think are doing well or are amazing. so far honestly, I personally have found less than 10 appealing or even worth looking in to, there are so many of them that have come out in the last 12 months its beyond insane.
The phone ones as you mentioned and I agree with, definitely are the most sketch out of them. But that does not change that these ones arent sketch either.

They all have the same thing going for them and as for the scene you mentioned, there are quite a few that have same good stuff or "quality" rather and yet barely got any work or update. And even if they did and they are sitting on say 0.2 or .05 or something like that, the amount of gameplay they offer for the duration of what it took them to update.. is just not much, barely crumbs.

I could care less that people use aicg, it saves them money and they can work on something that supposedly should things easier. We shall see how this one goes. But to have so many Aicg's coming out and over 90% of them are all ntr/nts focused with pretty much almost same plot/synopsis with all saying nothing is avoidable but in the writing of the plot comes down to " will they be corrupted or rise against it " " will they fall in to depravity or maintain their innocence ".

All of the plot seems to be written the same but with the whole " ill let you copy my homework but make changes " idea to it that it will always be sketch.
If this person brings in quick updates with enough content on consistent level, great. he is one of the good ones. but right now anything that has less than 10 updates and shares same style of plot writing is sketch on sight until proven otherwise.

The quality of the AI on this one looks good just like most of them, the writing so far is not bad but will it stay the same or get better ? that we will have to wait and see.

Robin_Scales said:

I have an observation, which I am legitimately curious about.
Ever since AI art became common in porn games, I feel like almost every game that has utilized it and come out in the last year since then has been specifically focused on Nts.
Which is weird because it was a relatively rare subgenre prior to the rise of AI.
I feel like the Ntr-Nts ratio on this site used to be like ~80-20, mainly driven by Japanese Renpy and RPGM games.
But if you only count games using Ai within this "field" that have begun development in 2024-2025 it's almost ONLY Nts.
I'm curious why that is.

Is it just authors capitalizing on a trend?
Is there somehow a psychological connection between people who use Ai for game development, and players who are fine with it, and people who like Nts?
Or is it just a coincidence?

What is the reason why so many AI games have Nts?

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I've noticed this too and have a theory . AI makes things a bit more accessible. Allowing people who want certain content. To be able/attempt to do it themselves. The ratio of NTR vs no NTR stuff. Looks to heavily lean towards no NTR. So if you want that type of content. Your selection is a lot smaller. And I think between the three categories. NTS itself is even smaller. So folks out here starving compared to their more vanilla brethren. Then getting scraps within their own sphere.

Now? AI opens things up. Got an idea and think you're a decent writer? Just want to show folks how it's done? But don't have the funds or the skill to get or make proper art? AI. There is some more vanilla AI stuff. But there isn't really a need for it. Whatever you can think of, is probably being or been done, 30 times over. You have a King's feast worth of selection. Further helping my thought, is how many of these devs say they are new. And flat out say they wanted to make this type of game. Now being able to do it, thanks to AI. So you get a flood of 1st time do-it-yourselfers.

But that's just a theory. A!